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Plastic Psycho Necro-Economics 324	Posted - 2013.08.21 16:11:00 - [1] - Quote Abyss Azizora wrote: If you plan to gank gankers, it's surprisingly easy, since they never tank their ships. Just keep in mind they will have killrights on you unless they are suspect/criminal. This.^ The real question you're facing is whether or not you've got the reflexes. Gankers are used to rapid response, and they know where their targets are. You won't know when they're coming, or who their target is, so you're going to need superior reflexes and good intelligence. And a lot of patience. If you try to pre-empt them, you give gankers kill rights on you - Hilarity will ensue. You may even get Concordokken yourself, which is a bit humiliating (have done that my own self; I know whereof I speak). If you wait until they're flashy, you've got bare seconds in which to react before concord shows up to spoil your fun. The good news is that a properly-fit Insta-locking boat with long-range weapons - even a frigate - can pop a gankalyst with ease. If you get there before Concordokken happens. Maybe you can try to pop their pods - If you're fast enough, and if they're slow enough or dumb enough to give you a chance to engage or scan them down. Don't count on it.
Plastic Psycho Necro-Economics 324	Posted - 2013.08.21 16:36:00 - [2] - Quote Nexus Day wrote: Camper101 wrote: Alice Saki wrote: Lets Gank the Ganker that is Ganking... While Concord Ganks them. Gankception. Gankageddon? Only if it becomes a party.
Plastic Psycho Necro-Economics 329	Posted - 2013.08.22 16:44:00 - [3] - Quote Jonah Gravenstein wrote: Tobias Hareka wrote: Funny thing about gankers is that they always repeat the same line "learn to tank" but they never learn to tank their ships. So gank Nado should teach them some basic lessons about EHP. You should be able to take out at least one Catalyst in 0.7 or higher with 800mm Repeating Artillery and faction Fusion. Two Catalysts easily in 0.5. There's no point in tanking a suicide gank ship, suicide being the important word. It's guaranteed to die, why tank it? Miners on the other hand don't expect their ships to die every time they undock, can you see the important difference? This.^ Tanking a Gankalyst is just throwing (more) ISK down a rat hole. Minimum fit necessary to do the job: No more, no less.
Plastic Psycho Necro-Economics 335	Posted - 2013.08.23 16:14:00 - [4] - Quote Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: Besides, most miners who are popped are AFK and I know this for a fact. Yup yup yup. When a bumbler like me can gank successfully, you know they're asleep at the switch. Quote: Makes for more and better marketing opportunities for myself and not them. They are the lazy ones with no honor for their own profession at all. On those rare occasions when I dust off my mining alt, I don't tank. Deliberately. The cost of replacement hulls is considered in the profit-loss calculation - cheaper fits mean less loss, more profit. Of course, I almost never get ganked whilst mining, either, because I'm not asleep at the switch. Let me say that again: "Not asleep at the switch." THAT^^ is your number-one defense against being ganked - alert, aware of who is in local (and what their KB says about them!), moving at all times with turn points and multiple safes in all directions, and checking intelligence. THAT is how you mine without getting bored OR ganked - by being engaged, and continually checking the surroundings. I'll grant that it's work, but who's afraid of a little work, eh?
Plastic Psycho Necro-Economics 335	Posted - 2013.08.23 16:24:00 - [5] - Quote Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: I'm tanked when mining but also not exactly nerfing my yield. It's an individual thing how one mines; So long as you're awake and alert, the details are less important.
Plastic Psycho Necro-Economics 336	Posted - 2013.08.23 16:51:00 - [6] - Quote Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: I did spend about 15 minutes one day on Eve Kill looking at exhumer kills, looking at one non-existent tank after another, and that's enough time to get a fair sample, but I just had to stop. It was genuinely depressing. Like, not even attempts to try. Some even had warp scramblers fit, and I'm not kidding. Some of those non-existant tanks were because of ignorance or lazyness. Some were deliberate calculation. Won't try to guess the proportions. But warp scrams..?! That's embarassing.
Plastic Psycho Necro-Economics 337	Posted - 2013.08.23 17:05:00 - [7] - Quote Baitships, I'm guessing. Or bad attempts at baitships. If you're in HS, there's no need; Concord will do all the webbing and scramming needed. So trying to set up baitship barges in HS is just... bad.
Plastic Psycho Necro-Economics 343	Posted - 2013.08.23 20:49:00 - [8] - Quote Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: In over 3 years of Ice Mining I have yet to ever see a Freighter in an Ice Belt.....and I'm not kidding. I have. Not terribly common, but not unheard-of.

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